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Crossing at Cumin Place and Tantallon Place
The plans for this crossing have finally progressed from the first stage of consultation to being “advertised orders”. They have been split into two separate TROs:
- TRO/21/17A – changes to parking restrictions
- TRO/21/17B – banned turns and entry
The latest version of the ’tiles’ (the detailed maps of each area, showing the precise position of permit parking bays, yellow lines etc.) in TRO/21/17A does not appear to be materially different from that in the original TRO/21/17.
TRO/21/17B, however, now includes a ‘No Right Turn’ for motor traffic when exiting southbound from Tantallon Place onto Grange Road. In all other respects, southbound motor traffic is unrestricted. As with the original proposals in TRO/21/17, northbound motor traffic will not be permitted to exit Cumin Place nor to enter Tantallon Place.
The details of these advertised TROs are accessible on the Roads & Pavements page of our website, by clicking on the TROs tile and then scrolling down to TRO/21/17A and TRO/21/17B and clicking to select the documents from the sub-menus there.
The two orders appear on the Council’s website for Advertised Orders, which notes that they will be open for public comments until 10 February 2023.
I have heard that there should be enough room for 2 double deckers to pass anywhere on a bus route. Should that not apply here?
The crossing at Lauder Road is very rarely used by cyclists largely because the sight lines are so poor. Rather than use the crossing they prefer to go to the very edge of the road & cycle across when it is clear. Indeed it is very difficult to work out where vehicles should stop when turning when the pedestrian crossing is in operation. Has there been a census to see if it is at all effective? Has anyone checked if it is cost effective?? Why was there no drain installed at what is the summit of a low hill??
There is a very serious hole in the road surface near the (blocked) drain at the top of Tantallon Pl. I hope it will be dealt with thoroughly whatever happens with the crossing. When this drain/gulley is blocked (most of the time) in periods of heavy rain the water shoots down the hill gathering rubbish to block further gulleys.
WHY WHY WHY is this at all necessary?
Mardy – thanks for giving your views!
You can report a blocked gully here – and it does work. They do come and clear them.
You can also report a pothole here. With this one you may get a reply saying they already know about it.
Shuggie‘s comment from closed thread
“We have lodged comments on this and would be happy to share thoughts with anyone also not keen on what’s planned. Whilst it’s very likely to go ahead ideally there may be scope to at least persuade the Council to make some modifications. One point we have made is the perilous state of the tarmac at the new cycle junction at Lauder Road/ Grange Road when it’s icy, bad enough for a pedestrian to navigate, even worse for a cyclist. It’s one of several points we’ve raised which would likely increase the cost of installation.”
Reply To: Grange Road crossings at Tantallon/Cumin Place now open for comments
Unbelievable – not one reply from the council regarding my and other residents objections. Simply swept under the carpet or as the council said:
“In order to progress and in the first instance, we would request that you withdraw your objection to TRO/21/17A&B by responding to this email stating that you are content to withdraw your objection.”
No responses from the council and now we are steamrollered into more changes to the road system, reducing parking spaces and making a narrow road even narrower – brilliant.
What is wrong with Lauder Road junction? It’s twice as wide as any road in the area and the safest place to cross for all. For all the cylcists – a sign to go along Hatton Place then up Lauder Road – simple.
Total waste of public money
Perhaps I am not a stereotypical resident of The Grange, but I am happy for my council tax to be spent on these kinds of projects – and would like to see much more of this throughout the city. If crossings mean that drivers have to reduce speed and pedestrians have more options of where to cross, then that is to be welcomed in my view. Wouldn’t it be lovely if all drivers drove at 20MPH in residential areas? If more people used public transport, a taxi, or a club car – or walked or cycled if they can – when making journeys within the city? There will always be a need for cars and vans (hopefully soon all electric) but the city is highly congested and horribly polluted by fumes and noise. People who really need to make a car journey, or use a parking space, would get around much more easily (and with less stress) if everyone collectively reduced their car use. There would also be less wear and tear on the roads, so fewer potholes and less money spent on repairing streets. Most people in Edinburgh don’t own a car, but a huge amount of public space is taken up by roads with narrow pavements and/or no cycle lanes, and parking spaces. I would really encourage people who drive a lot, but who could walk or take public transport more often, to do so, you never know you may feel healthier and in a better mood for it.
Sustrans survey of Grange Road crossings
Sustrans are looking to complete the monitoring of the Grange Road crossings project with a postal survey sent to around 1700 households in the Grange area.
These surveys should be sent out in early August, and we are asking residents to complete the survey by the end of August. We had a very high response rate when we ran the corresponding survey before the work on the crossings started, and it would be great to get similar numbers for the follow-up survey, to give us confidence in the results.
The survey should take only around 10 minutes to complete, and respondents can also opt to enter a prize draw to win £50 of shopping vouchers.
There is an online version of the survey at https://online1.snapsurveys.com/grangeroad if anyone would prefer to complete it that way, or if any other household members would like to complete it.
Richard Cooper
Evaluation Officer | Research and Monitoring Unit | Sustrans
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